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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 08:52:07 » |
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To Andy and all those sick minds involved in organising the Tay this year i thank you from the bottom of a bog, with trees chopped down accross it and sideslopes leading into it! To all the marshalls for keeping the days events running smoothly! And more importantly to the tea van for keeping me fed and watered! We, and I'm speaking on behalf of the team, had a fantastic time, although it was my first Tay everyone said it was like Tays of old! To Seany we weren't able to get the caravan off the campsite let alone the event but now Justin has the boggers we're gonna put Simex's on it to make it more competative! Cheers all and see you at next years! Rich 
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Dave C
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 19:15:06 » |
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Thanks to all involved Tay 2008 it was as always the hardest most demanding event we do. Possibly need to keep a closer eye on my fuel level next year and get some bigger tyres, also don't use b**tp**t indestructible steering bars as they simply aren't. Thought i might have learnt before now after destroying my fourth bar though. Thanks to some innocent bystanders for finding a jerry can of fuel and putting it down near the section  By the way are chainsaws allowed next year?
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 20:25:42 » |
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Glad you found the fuel. Did wounder if you were going to blow yourself up using the mobile phone to look into the fuel tank - have you not seen the videos of folk answering the phone while fueling the cars - they look awful shocked once the flames subside......
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 21:23:04 » |
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have dave you know what they say...you pay for what you get.
i dont think any steering bars can stand hitting the tree stumps or the small rocks that we found this year. the answer has to be make them quick release and fast to replace or hydro steer maybe.
roll on the decider
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2008, 02:13:26 » |
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2008, 10:47:06 » |
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I posted this on LR4x4 but felt that I have to share my view here as well:
Dear All,
As the Scotish "I want to be like Chris Abel" challenge is now behind us I would like to share my observations after watching Chris/Simon, Alan/Dafydd.
To make it short, they were cheating all along and after only seeing them at the end of one section I was disgusted and went to the pub to get drunk. I cannot believe That the organisers let them get away with this and that other competitors who saw the same I saw just let them get away with it and even applauded at the prize giving.
To be more specific:
a) Chris has a tree monkey as a co-driver! It cannot be in the spirit of our sport if the winch bitch is replaced by a monkey who actually can climb up trees to set winch anchor points. Simon should be handicapped with chains around his ankles and handcuffed behind the back.
b) Chris' truck did not have a windscreen. This unbelievably was not notice during scruteneering and actually alowed him to hear when his co-driver (the above mentioned, to be punished tree monkey) shouted instructions at him. While every other driver ignores the bitch (as it is supposed to be) Chris actually listens to Simon wich is clearly against the rules and border line cheating! For future events Chris should be made to wear ear plugs and should be blind folded to make sure he does not react to hand signals either!
c) No breakages on his truck! The unwritten code of conduct in winch challenges states that your truck has to break down at least once per day on a trophy. While everyone adheres to this unwritten rule Chris' truck never breaks down. His "simulated" break down in the first section was traced down to a squashed fuel line was a clear attempt to cheat on the rule as not even tools had to be used to fix the car. Again, clear cheating and I suggest that the other competitors should be given 30 minutes of tinkering time on Chris' truck before the event starts.
d) His winch(es). Well what can I say. Having reliable double motor electric winches front and rear is just taking the tiddle. Again, in combination with a), and c) above this can only be seen as playing outside the rules. A hand puller or alternativly a hydrolic winch which stalls all the time should be made mandatory for "Team Cheating".
I thought a long time before posting this accusations but the above photo evidence makes it clear to everyone what was going on. Hopefully we can avoid this kind of behaviour going on in the future.
Best Stef
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2008, 11:23:55 » |
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Could not agree more..... Until the "cheating" element is removed and balance restored we are all unlikely to beat this team of Cheats and there clearly ridiculous car and techniques Bring back hanging........ And fast Jim 
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2008, 12:03:03 » |
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Bring back hanging Bathtub Never went away mate, your missis told me I am well hung.......... Thought I would say for him............................
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steffUK
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 12:17:47 » |
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Having a second look at the results I truly believe that Jim and I won the event as EVERYONE else was cheating:
Chris/Alan - as described, cheting: OUT Davenhill/Dean - Airsuspension, well prepared, cheating: OUT Tony/Dransfield - too old, cheating: OUT Bathtub/Chris - too ugly, cheating: OUT
and I can run through the full list here!
So MrT, if you read this, please send us the trophy, plus I think we deserve the special "tread lightly" award as we only managed to drive 2 miles through the forest and did not ruin the beautiful Scotish countryside like the other cheaters!!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2008, 15:40:05 » |
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Hi Steff, Good to hear that you have a sense of humour - not generally present in the German double helix. It has taken me some time to answer the various claims of cheating, poor scrutineering & the presence of inhuman team members as I have been suffering from a condition only an excited spanial owner would understand. let me address these issues as follows:-
a) Chris has a tree monkey as a co-driver! It cannot be in the spirit of our sport if the winch bitch is replaced by a monkey who actually can climb up trees to set winch anchor points. Simon should be handicapped with chains around his ankles and handcuffed behind the back. Nowhere on the entry form does it clearly state that you winchman must be a member of the human race - merely that they must become a member of the SWCC. NO FOUL here!
b) Chris' truck did not have a windscreen. This unbelievably was not notice during scruteneering and actually allowed him to hear when his co-driver (the above mentioned, to be punished tree monkey) shouted instructions at him. While every other driver ignores the bitch (as it is supposed to be) Chris actually listens to Simon which is clearly against the rules and border line cheating! For future events Chris should be made to wear ear plugs and should be blind folded to make sure he does not react to hand signals either! Now we are venturing into fantasy land - A talking Monkey that talks sense - I would have said that this is positively the most radical evolution of the sport in years and ask why Gigglepin do not sell them - lack of an livestock import licence perhaps? In order to handicap this entrant perhaps he should be forced by the other competitors to put his helmet on back to front - this should achieve your desired limitations. The actions of the competitors towards each other is of little interest to the organisers sort it out amongst yourselves!
c) No breakages on his truck! The unwritten code of conduct in winch challenges states that your truck has to break down at least once per day on a trophy. While everyone adheres to this unwritten rule Chris' truck never breaks down. His "simulated" break down in the first section was traced down to a squashed fuel line was a clear attempt to cheat on the rule as not even tools had to be used to fix the car. Again, clear cheating and I suggest that the other competitors should be given 30 minutes of tinkering time on Chris' truck before the event starts. Now this one I can help you with!! I shall raise the bar again next year in line with inflation +10% and this should ensure everyone has breakages - SORTED!!
d) His winch(es). Well what can I say. Having reliable double motor electric winches front and rear is just taking the tiddle. Again, in combination with a), and c) above this can only be seen as playing outside the rules. A hand puller or alternativly a hydrolic winch which stalls all the time should be made mandatory for "Team Cheating". Please refer to my answer to your point"c" and be assured that the first section for this entrant next year will achieve the same results as yours this year + Inflation etc.
In summary, when you have accepted the fact that all the other competitors have made astounding progress in the evolution of this sport while you have been picking your nose & scratching your rear end & finished eating the 2 tons of green cheese from Tesco, perhaps it is time to try another sport or at least team up with somebody that can finish an event!!!
Foreigners - & that includes the English should accept the fact that no matter what they bring to Scotland - I will send it back in bits!!! The vehicle so bullied in this post must have emerged from a trash can - cunning plan, appear to drive a dustbin and i will take pity on you - THIS WILL NOT WORK NEXT YEAR!!!
Andy Thomlinson.
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2008, 15:47:15 » |
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2008, 16:06:13 » |
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The monkey even struggled on some trees too
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2008, 09:44:23 » |
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The monkey even struggled on some trees too
that one was hard work!! 
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2008, 21:00:45 » |
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ill be feeding you more banana's before the next one
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